Joining
Use fasteners or solid-state joining. Fusion welds melt and coarsen the dispersoid structure, cutting strength in the weld zone.
8009 extrusions are rods, bars and solid shapes pressed from consolidated powder of the Al-8.6Fe-1.8Si-1.3V alloy. They keep their strength at 250 – 315 °C, so they suit warm-zone brackets, fins, fasteners and engine-bay parts where normal aerospace extrusions soften. Metline sources 8009-H112 extrusions to AMS 4309 on enquiry for customers worldwide.

8009 is an aluminium alloy that cannot be made by normal casting. Its high iron and vanadium content must be frozen into a very fine structure by rapid solidification, then consolidated from powder into a billet that is extruded at high pressure. The result is a profile whose strength comes from stable silicide particles, not from ageing.
This matters for parts that sit near engines, exhausts or aerodynamically heated surfaces. A 2024 or 7075 extrusion loses strength progressively when held above about 150 °C, because its precipitates over-age. 8009 retains its structure, so a bracket designed at room temperature still has most of its capacity after thousands of hours at 250 °C.
An earlier version of this page listed a 3xxx-type chemistry (manganese 0.8 – 1.3 %), a solution-heat-treatment schedule and decorative uses such as guardrails, doors and windows. None of that applies to 8009; it is a specialist aerospace material and is not supplied for architectural profiles.
AMS 4309 names the alloy by its nominal composition. Certified analysis is supplied with each lot.
| Element | Nominal (AMS 4308 / 4309 title) | Approximate range | Role |
|---|---|---|---|
| Iron (Fe) | 8.6 | About 8.4 – 8.9 | Forms the Al12(Fe,V)3Si dispersoids that carry strength at temperature |
| Silicon (Si) | 1.8 | About 1.7 – 1.9 | Stabilises the cubic silicide phase |
| Vanadium (V) | 1.3 | About 1.1 – 1.5 | Slows coarsening of the dispersoids |
| Copper, magnesium, zinc | — | Low impurity levels | Not used for strengthening |
| Aluminium (Al) | Remainder | Remainder | About 88 % |
Extrusion of 8009 requires higher pressure than 6xxx alloys and lower speeds, and die design must account for the alloy's limited hot ductility. This is why the range of shapes is narrower than for conventional alloys.
Earlier claims of open profiles up to 850 mm wide and lengths up to 28 m described a conventional extrusion press, not a powder-metallurgy alloy, and have been removed.
| Shape | Typical use for 8009 | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Round rod | Fasteners, pins and turned engine parts | Most common form |
| Flat and rectangular bar | Brackets, fins and stiffeners | Machined to final shape |
| Hexagon bar | Nuts and fittings for warm zones | On enquiry |
| Angle, tee and channel | Stiffeners for warm panels | Small sections only, on enquiry |
| Machined profiles | Complex parts cut from rectangular bar | Often more economical than a custom die |
Research on extruded spray-formed 8009 reports room-temperature tensile strength around 415 MPa and yield around 345 MPa, with both falling gradually as temperature rises. Rapidly solidified product can reach somewhat higher values. Design to the minimums in AMS 4309 and to elevated-temperature data agreed with the supplier.
| Property | 8009-H112 | 2024-T3511 | 7075-T6511 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Room-temperature tensile (indicative) | ~415 – 460 MPa | ~480 MPa | ~570 MPa |
| Room-temperature yield (indicative) | ~345 – 410 MPa | ~360 MPa | ~505 MPa |
| After long exposure at 250 °C | Little change | Significant loss | Severe loss |
| Creep resistance at 200 – 300 °C | Good | Fair | Poor |
| Weldability (fusion) | Poor | Poor | Poor |
| Density | About 3.0 g/cm³ | 2.78 g/cm³ | 2.81 g/cm³ |
The mechanical and processing figures on an earlier version of this page (310/280 MPa minimum, water quench from 480 °C) described a heat-treatable alloy and did not apply to 8009.
Use fasteners or solid-state joining. Fusion welds melt and coarsen the dispersoid structure, cutting strength in the weld zone.
Machines cleanly; expect higher tool wear from the hard intermetallic particles. Carbide or PCD tools are recommended.
Limited cold formability. Bend warm if needed and test first.
Do not stress-relieve or process above about 450 °C. Do not heat-treat as for 2xxx or 7xxx alloys; it brings no benefit.
Free of copper and zinc, so general corrosion resistance is good; standard conversion coatings and paints apply.
Isolate from carbon-fibre composites and stainless steel with sealant or barrier layers, as for any aluminium alloy.
Round extrusions up to 89 mm (3.5 in) diameter and rectangular or other solid shapes up to about 64.5 cm² (10 in²) cross-section, in lengths up to about 2.5 m.
No. 8009 is not age-hardenable. It is supplied in H112 and its strength comes from dispersoids formed during rapid solidification.
2618 is a precipitation-hardened alloy that slowly loses strength with long exposure above about 150 °C. 8009 is thermally stable, so it holds strength better over long service at 200 – 315 °C.
Rarely. Powder billets are usually extruded into solid sections; hollow parts are typically machined from rod.
It is not suitable or economical for that. Architectural profiles use 6060, 6063 or 6005A.
Share the section, service temperature and specification, and we will confirm whether 8009 or an alternative fits.